Helium 3 7sqm frontstall?

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orion
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Fri Aug 31, 2018 1:20 pm

Hi,
I tried my new helium 7 one day in let´s say 11-14 knots, the other day in 14-25 knots (very gusty). On both days I had a problem: The kite all of a sudden felt down when it was at 12 o´clock in the sky and I was lying in the water.

I solved the problem by always sheeting the bar a bit in and/or keep it moving. But as I´m a foil beginner I´d like to have both hands free to get on the foilboard (one hand prevent the board from flipping back, one hand to row in the water to get the right angle of the board relativly to the wind direction).

It also fell down when I was lying in the water and I gave the bar a throw to untwist after a kite-backloop.

Is this typical for a kite that is highly depowerable? Beneath that bad point I like the kite.

Thanks for advice.
felix
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Joined: Fri Jun 24, 2011 7:24 pm

Sat Sep 01, 2018 8:32 pm

Sounds like you need to move the knots up to the more powered knot on the rear lines .
This should solve your issue.
Regards
Felix.
orion
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Joined: Mon Oct 14, 2013 4:36 pm

Mon Sep 03, 2018 2:28 pm

Hi, I tried it today. Didn't work. The lines are completely slack anyway when I let go of the bar, so this won't help. The kite wanted to frontstall a lot of times again. My solution: Always Look up, let go of the bar only if you grab it immediately again and prevent frontstalling.
icedub
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Tue Sep 04, 2018 7:41 pm

Perhaps you could try sliding your stopper a bit closer so when you let go of the bar it can't sheet out quite as far?
orion
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Joined: Mon Oct 14, 2013 4:36 pm

Tue Sep 04, 2018 7:52 pm

I removed the stopperball. On my lightwindbar I even removed the adjuster 8-)

Maybe I should try another frontline adjustment at the kite (the attachment point closer to the Tips)?
Faxie
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Wed Sep 05, 2018 1:54 pm

orion wrote:
Tue Sep 04, 2018 7:52 pm
I removed the stopperball. On my lightwindbar I even removed the adjuster 8-)

Maybe I should try another frontline adjustment at the kite (the attachment point closer to the Tips)?
Could work. Tiny bit less depower though.
jakoblondal
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Location: Denmark

Wed Sep 05, 2018 3:10 pm

orion wrote:
Tue Sep 04, 2018 7:52 pm
I removed the stopperball. On my lightwindbar I even removed the adjuster 8-)

Maybe I should try another frontline adjustment at the kite (the attachment point closer to the Tips)?
Maybe that´s why it front stall, the lines have become to much from same length, when "depowering" on the bar.
orion
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Joined: Mon Oct 14, 2013 4:36 pm

Wed Sep 05, 2018 3:27 pm

That sounds right. With my elements that never was a problem because they fly stable. I keep on tuning;) And don't let go of the bar definitely works beside :)
felix
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Thu Sep 06, 2018 2:24 am

So many factors
How much wind is there?
Are you moving your body towards your kite?
Are the big lulls ?
Add a knot on the rear line 1/2 inch above the top knot.
You have to much depower and too little wind.
You need to adjust your rear lines to the right amount of power for the wind conditions.
Right now you are killing the kite too much .
Regards
Felix.
LukeAdshead
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Fri Sep 07, 2018 5:52 pm

Hi,

If you look at the wind range on the specs page for the 7m Helium it says the wind range is roughly 25 - 40kts. It looks like you are flying the kite in at best, very marginal wind conditions and maybe the reason the kite is not flying as it should.
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