Is controller 4 in development?

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Tue Feb 21, 2017 3:24 pm

I don't want a shitty squishy grip and sticky stiff PU :cry:
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Tue Feb 21, 2017 6:02 pm

Remember flexifoil bar? That was real man's bar, like a cheese grater.
I'm glad they will drop the swivel. Simplicity is good! Better QR system is welcome!
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Wed Feb 22, 2017 1:21 am

queneseb wrote:Hi all,

Everything you claim gonna be improve !

- Soft grip
- Soft bar end
- Better Bar Flot
- 360 magnetic
- Remove swivel
- Plastic depower rope
- ...


@SwitchGreg, is there any positiv thing for you in life ? :D
Yes. Lots.

My new Element 5 and half price Controller 3 are almost on my doorstep.

The Controller 4 will take a perfectly decent bar and make it into a vey nice one.

Switch have just dropped their prices by $50 for each kite.

I have a beautiful foil that I love to ride every day.

There's some new Switch models coming out that should suit my riding very nicely. Either that, or I can buy a Helium 2 or Nitro 6 to improve my lighter wind riding.

About the only negative things I have to deal with is a surfer's ear related infection keeping me out of the water (got an appointment with a specialist), and people making personal comments in forum posts. :mrgreen:
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Wed Feb 22, 2017 3:20 pm

me personally for lightwind prefer the Helium2 15,5 above the Nitro ( have a Nitro 12m) the Helium starts so easy from the water in lightwind conditions!!
Dude :ugeek:
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Fri Feb 24, 2017 5:40 am

While I think of it, a shorter leash option would be nice. The Switch leashes are massively over-engineered. Two layers of webbing and double bungee? Really?

I cut mine down to half length and remove the bungee.
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Fri Feb 24, 2017 4:04 pm

queneseb wrote:Hi all,

Everything you claim gonna be improve !

- Soft grip
- Soft bar end
- Better Bar Flot
- 360 magnetic
- Remove swivel
- Plastic depower rope
- ...
- Soft is nice but doesn't wear that more quicklier, hope switch test that first thoroughly or have spare parts available at the time of the C4 release.
- Yes it needs to float
- 360 magnetic is also an improvement, positive negativ magnetic fields can irritate
- No more swivels, so we are stuck with tangled lines or we need to learn how to backroll and then frontroll to untangle ?
- Plastic depower rope, do they slide as good as the depower cord we have now through the bar hole or make it even better maybe new material ? I think I just learned I need to get stronger so that I can hold the bar more longer down to have some softer landings sometimes.

Rear trim lines in the bar maybe this will get to expensive, but if you could make it so as an upgrade that would be very nice ofcourse. It maybe could be done to get a whole new bar designed, I mean like there is one longer bar now in the spare part section.
Redesign or make the quick release better, maybe it is good enough as it is. But sometimes you have to press hard or even I needed to use my thumb to press on the metal. And it is probably already compatible with harness which don't have a metal hook anymore. Like this:
Kites: Nitro V6 10m, Element V3 9m & Legacy v2 9m
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Sat Feb 25, 2017 2:05 am

I think most people want the top swivel to be simplified. It is bulky and doesn't do anything useful. The bottom swivel is the one I turn all the time to straighten out line twists and that needs to stay.

I have been using plastic covered depower lines for the past 7 years and cannot think of anything bad about it, except you are locked in to buying replacements from the manufacturer. That's a problem when the bar gets old and you can't buy spare parts any more. It is much easier to splice a length of Dyneema to make a replacement depower line. With a little bit of effort it was not so hard to do for my old ones.

The problem with replacing bits and pieces of lines is that you replace one part then you see that another part needs replacement. It is damaging to your confidence to push hard if you're constantly worrying about lines breaking or parts failing.

At the prices that Switch charges it's much easier to simply replace the whole thing each year or two or three. That would be even better if there was no single part (the depower line) that aged faster than the rest of the bar.

So far all my kites work on a single Switch bar on the narrow setting. That's better than having to own and maintain multiple bars. It also makes it easier to replace a single bar every couple of years.
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Sun Mar 05, 2017 11:57 pm

Is there a chance to get a system like North Click Bar or Ocean Rodeo same system?
OR Like Cabrinha Fireball?
Those are awesome and so expansive... :/
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Mon Mar 06, 2017 11:10 am

I really hope that SWITCH won't go that route. "Keep it simple, stupid"
Especially that Fireball thing -- that's just designed to increase vendor lock-in and hardly is an innovation.
Bill C
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Mon Mar 06, 2017 2:00 pm

I hope Switch doesn't go that route. I would not buy it.
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