Just some thoughts from me:djbear33k wrote:Why would you buy one??? Having seen the new photos online i cant see a reason to buy it. Let me explain
Things i like about the bar
bar floats smaller
simple safety release
above bar swivel gone (Atlast!!!)
Things i dont like
1. Bar grip ( I seen this type of bar grip wear heavily and in not much time, i dont see what was wrong with the previous grip, personally i never had issue with it ( I dont have soft dainty hands))
2. Trim Handle ( I cant believe it has a fabric handle, a tab with a magnet is all it needs this type of handle flaps in the wind and wears badly is horrible to hold and use)
3. High split (why do i need to move the high split i find this unnecessary and adding cost to the bar which is not needed)
4. Mini Kite leash ( I find this very disappointing, this would look like for the nitro atleast i have to buy a 4 line bar which i cannot do freestyle with as the leash is too short i would have to buy a legacy which some customers may not want to do, personally i own legacy kites and love it but i did own Nitros which helped me get into freestyle which i wouldnt have been able to do with a short leash atleast add the option in purchasing what size leash they want)
5. Multiple size bars ( just make 1 bar please i dont want choice like other brands trying to sell me stuff i dont want or need like north with its multiple bar setups which cost a fortune, most people wouldn't notice the difference so just make one size for all, switch customers are not idiots they know that they are not going to land a new trick or move cause they have a bar which is 8cm smaller).
6. Cost ( Switch you have priced yourselves out of the market it should price around £250 GBP not £350 this is a price which i can buy north (which i personally hate), blade unibar or naish bar, all of which are finished better than the switch bar and cost the same or less (eg buying last years models for example).
7. Style ( I cant say that the new bar looks nice at all it looks cheap and very dated (Like and old cabrinha bar which again i do not like), you are now charging premium price for a product which looks cheep and tacky so again priced yourselves out).
8. Plastic tube on depower line ( this is one i really hate, cause i know sand gets stuck in the tube wears the depower line and bam it snaps without me knowing mid air, if i can see it i can change it before this kind of thing happens, i got no problem buying spare depower lines, if i were to buy a bar i personally would remove the plastic horrible tube).
Overall i see it as a frustrating thing which switch has made, its overpriced looks tacky and i cant see why i would buy one, i would struggle not to buy a Naish (ok the naish bar has big floats which annoy me apart from that superb bar) or Blade unibar which i think look very nice and simple and are bot priced around £300 which is less that the switch bar. Its also frustrating as i like switch as a brand and its ethos is the best, but dont try to be like other brands offering multiple choices and confusing customers be a leader not a follower. I hope i get to see one in person and eat my words as i only want switch to be the best product it can be and allow riders the best kite experience they can get without costing the world. I hope the bar for freestyle is different ( But i doubt it will be), personally i would have made the existing bar lighter and without the silly swivel and cleaned it up not gone for a copy of cabrinha bar. I think you went too far with the changes being a design engineer myself i see this as a starting point a first draft if you will but needs allot of improvement in my eyes.
1: Too many people were complaining since barV1 that the grip was too hard. Personally, I've never minded it, but I understand the choise from Switch to go for a softer grip. The Pro bar should have harder grip.
2: Again, too many people were complaining about the V1 velcro handle. So they made it into a small plastic handle. People still complained because it didn't attach to the line properly. so they made a magnet handle. Again people complained. So basically they went back to the first handle, only lighter and capable of attaching it to the mainline to prevent dangling. I never hear anyone complain about the handles on other brand (North, fOne for example that thing can cause a concussion lol) bars.
3: Bar is low split. The high split is optional, but you can remove the ring if you're not planning to use it.
4: Again, a lot of people complaining about the long leash. 95% of kiters don't unhook. If you need a long leash, just get it from the sparepart section or get the Pro bar.
5: Totally agree. Should have been adjustable. I like the Naish system the most. Simple and not prone to breaking.
6: Kind of agree, but on the other hand....it's still one of the cheapest 2017-18 bars. Don't compare it to old models, that's like apples to oranges. Get a 2010 Ozone bar instead, should cost almost nothing, lol. Blade Unibar is 440,- btw.
7: I think it looks slick and simple. The previous bars looked cheap and unrefined. They worked very well, but a lot of people judge primarily on looks. Me personally, I think the Naish bar looks extremely ugly with a lot of completely unnecessary bumps and ridges. Won't look bad in a 50's scifi movie.
8: Opinions vary on PU lines... I find most of them a bit sticky during agressive steering and sheeting. They can rip too (Cabrinha and FOnes mostly) and sand will eat the line from the inside over time, true. But that will take quite some time though. Initital wear will take longer too. I'm into unhooked waveriding when the conditions are right, so I'm all for PU between my fingers now.
It's just not possible to please all. But I honestly think that Switch is exactly adressing the majority of the complaints over the last few years.
One other thing... I would've liked an adjustable stopper like the new OR one.
If you're into customizing, it's probably possible to create your own ultimate bar now with all the Switch spare parts over the years.