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Quiver connundrum: Element 5 or 7?

Posted: Sat May 30, 2015 11:16 pm
by icedub
First keep in mind that I'm about 125lbs (55kg), so I'm always on a smaller kite than everyone else. When people are happy on 12's, I'm loving my 9m v3 element. My current quiver is:

6m Ben Wilson Surf Noise
9m Switch Element (V3)
12m Mutiny S-Series (V3)
One smaller and one larger (light wind) TT board.

My 9m Element replaced a V1 Element at the beginning of the season and I'm super happy with it. The kite that I am not loving right now is the 6m. The bar is terrible (below the bar depower) and the bar pressure is very high. I'd ideally like to replace it with a 6m Element... which... doesn't exist. So, it's between the 5m and the 7m. I'm concerned the gap between the 9 and the 5 will be too great- leaving me in the awkward situation of being overpowered on one kite and underpowered on another. However, I'm concerned that the 7m won't give me enough top end, like when the wind is gusting in to the mid 30's as it can do here on the lake (Lake Champlain, Vermont).

What do the forum members think I should go with? (Obviously I'd love both the 5m and 7m element but finances only allows for one new kite purchase).

Re: Quiver connundrum: Element 5 or 7?

Posted: Sun May 31, 2015 4:26 pm
by dimip
How many knots can you hold and kite comfortably on the 9m?
9-7 meters it's a nice combo, depends also what you, how much powered you like to ride, surf or twin tip? Give more info :)

Re: Quiver connundrum: Element 5 or 7?

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2015 2:23 pm
by icedub
dimip wrote:Give more info :)
Okay, more info it is!

I'd say I'm comfortable holding the 9m down until about 22 knots, then things start getting uncomfortable. I know that I don't like being as super powered up as other people, and I'm sure this will change as I progress. Keep in mind I'm a light weight at 55kg.

My Boards are both TT's:
Best Spark 134 x 42 cm
Liquid Force Overdrive 142 X 45 cm

Is the top end range on the 7m really that much higher than the 9?

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Re: Quiver connundrum: Element 5 or 7?

Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2015 12:00 pm
by Jan:)
Windrange is always a very personal thing.
For me the range chart is a bit off, but that may be because I don't like to ride overpowered at all.

I havent seen a single kite that you can comfortably use from 20 Knots (overlap with your 9) to mid 30's.
That range is just too big.

I'd get the 7m - its a really good kite.

To go from 9 to 5 ist definately possible.
I have done that quite a few times myself, when the wind was picking up.
But the gap is quite big.

Re: Quiver connundrum: Element 5 or 7?

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 11:14 am
by kite*hawk
7M. It is the money kite in the Element line up. 5m would be a storm chaser.

Re: Quiver connundrum: Element 5 or 7?

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2015 5:16 pm
by icedub
@kite*hawk and @Jan:) I hear you. I agree that I would probably use the Element 7m more than the 5m, but I'm still concerned that It will top out too soon for me. Why oh why is there no 6m kite in the Switch lineup :?:

Re: Quiver connundrum: Element 5 or 7?

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2015 6:02 pm
by Elyes
I use 9m and 5m EV3 Quiver , with surfboard I'm ok with the 5m at 28knot (85 kg weight ).

Re: Quiver connundrum: Element 5 or 7?

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 8:21 am
by naishdude
the 5m has a great range, but as mentioned the gap will be a bit big..to be perfect.
l would advice the 7m...when it becomes a bit overpowered, take off the 3m extensions from your lines and you will see it expands the range a bit.

you still can buy a 5 m after you have saved some money or maybe next year ( patience has its own virtue ;) )

l mostly fly my smaller kites (7 and 5 m ) on 20m lines...sometimes 7 in its low end on 23m.

it does not save you from buying a 5m...but in the mean time you will be holding your new to buy 7m a bit longer ;) ;)

cheers dude :ugeek:

Re: Quiver connundrum: Element 5 or 7?

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 9:32 am
by onarope
Go for the 7 and if finances allow get a smaller board to increase the range further - 134 x 42 seems pretty big if you're only 55kg

Re: Quiver connundrum: Element 5 or 7?

Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2015 10:28 pm
by icedub
@onarope: Great point, I had never considered board size in the mix. What do you think would be a more appropriate size for me for a higher wind board?

@naishdude: Ooh, I've never experimented with changing my line length! I suppose that would probably help open up the range on the 7 for me. I agree.. A 5 is going to be inevitable if I want to ride on days that are getting up over 28 knots or so.

@Elyes: Is 28 knots on your 5m Element3 the high end or low end for you?