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PICOW
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Sat Apr 25, 2015 11:54 pm

Dear all,

I'm on the hunt for a new set of kites. I'm 92kg, I like boosting, big air, but getting in the world of unhooked and more freestyle.

I'll get the 140x43 board from Switch.

But I have a dilemma with the kites.

I have tried element2 and very briefly element3, tried nitro1 and nitro2 (both were terrible in my opinion). I hear a lot of praise for the new Nitro, but I still don't trust it. Nitro was a tank, but bar pressure was insane, depower non-existent and also kite was painfuly slow.

I think with 9m and 13m I can cover a good range from 15 to 30 knots? Nitro would have to to 9 and 12 or 10 and 14.

Any word on Element4?

Any advice will be appreciated :).

P.S.: the fact that switch kites are 20% cheaper in Australia compared to Europe is not very nice. :)

(I like numbers :lol: )

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Kind regards,
PIC
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kite*hawk
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Sun Apr 26, 2015 12:16 pm

If you are getting into the world of unhooked why not consider the combat? It is a great C kite with good range and goes upwind and relaunch better than any C kite I have rode. At your weight though I would go 10,14 Nitro and 9,13 Element. Both these kite have improved alot since the versions you rode.
Jan:)
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Sun Apr 26, 2015 2:19 pm

PICOW wrote:P.S.: the fact that switch kites are 20% cheaper in Australia compared to Europe is not very nice. :)
This topic comes up like every other month.
Even though I don't know the internal calculations switch makes to determine prices...prices in europe include UK VAT, which is currently 20%.
Prices to australia do not include any additional taxes.

So a good guess by me is, the VAT is exactly the price difference you are mentioning.
PICOW
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Sun Apr 26, 2015 2:49 pm

Jan:) wrote:
PICOW wrote:P.S.: the fact that switch kites are 20% cheaper in Australia compared to Europe is not very nice. :)
This topic comes up like every other month.
Even though I don't know the internal calculations switch makes to determine prices...prices in europe include UK VAT, which is currently 20%.
Prices to australia do not include any additional taxes.

So a good guess by me is, the VAT is exactly the price difference you are mentioning.
Jan, there are so many things you wrote wrong ... :).

What would be the windrange for a 90kg rider for 9m, 11m, 13m element and 10m and 14m Nitro?

Thanks!

Kind regards,
Sebastijan
kite*hawk
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Mon Apr 27, 2015 12:29 am

The wind range on the nitro is better. Its due to its low end and depower abilities. Also less bar pressure.You could probley do a 2 kite quiver with the 10 and 14 nitro. I like both kites but mostly strapless surf so the element is my go to kite for surf. But if freestyle+boost is your thing than look no further than the Nitro. It has taken my freestyle to the next level.
dimip
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Mon Apr 27, 2015 12:01 pm

What wind range you wanna cover? Nitro is the opposite of what you wrote. Meaning light bar pressure, quick turning with power, great wind range and almost total depower within arm reach ;)
PICOW
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Mon Apr 27, 2015 1:25 pm

dimip wrote:What wind range you wanna cover? Nitro is the opposite of what you wrote. Meaning light bar pressure, quick turning with power, great wind range and almost total depower within arm reach ;)
I need to cover from 18 knots to 30, maybe even 35. I have 93kg, I am trying to figure out what windrange will a 10m give me on a 140x43 board.

You never rode Nitro V2? I hated that kite :).

PICOW
dimip
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Mon Apr 27, 2015 6:35 pm

I am 82 kg rider 132x41 twin tip, (Shinn monk that is kite power hungry) on a 10 m Nitro and start 14 knots (fun stats at 17 knots) and till 30 knots I don't use the depower rope. 30 to 35 I will depower 2-3 cm.
PICOW
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Mon Apr 27, 2015 8:18 pm

dimip wrote:I am 82 kg rider 132x41 twin tip, (Shinn monk that is kite power hungry) on a 10 m Nitro and start 14 knots (fun stats at 17 knots) and till 30 knots I don't use the depower rope. 30 to 35 I will depower 2-3 cm.
This reads like sci-fi :). So I only buy a 10m kite and on days with less than 18 knots I go for a beer :).
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Wed May 06, 2015 4:14 pm

if lowest wind is 18 knots , 13 and 9m EV3 will be ok and Nitro 4 12m and 9m too.
12 m Nitro 4 and 13m EV3 have the same low end .
with TT board , I have fun with both at 15 Knot (85 kg)
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